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	<title>Comments on: Scientists say GM dialogue is a front for industry</title>
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		<title>By: 4ndy</title>
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		<dc:creator>4ndy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was disgusted when I read about this: (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/mar/03/eu-approves-gm-food-potato) a while back, as one of the few useful and sensible things the EU ever did was to ban most GM produce and dodgy agricultural chemicals. For a while this problem just used to be away in America, where they had the EPA doing exactly what those scientists described the FSA as doing, but now the lobbyists are bringing their horrible abortion of science even closer to home, with a potato species and 3 types of corn that now may be legally grown in the EU.

Also, the problem isn&#039;t just with Monsanto et al extorting money out of farmers, trying to legislate against the good parts of nature, patent what they didn&#039;t create, and the risk of strange cancers or other ilnesses developing from the unstable gene structure in some of these strains, but also the risk of the actual pesticides, fungicides and weedkillers that they spray on these crops soaking into the food and straight-up poisoning people.
Some of the sick corporations are even eager to spread crops that have genes to make them create their own pesticides, so that it doesn&#039;t need to be sprayed, which not only puts the consumer&#039;s health at risk, but creates the extreme risk of spreading into wild crops and destroying the natural ecosystems remaining in the world.

I&#039;m glad you found that article on ecological agriculture, because I hate constantly hearing the fallacious claim that the world is &#039;overpopulated&#039;, when we produce more food than is necessary to feed the world population while not having enough money for them to pay for it all, yet the carrying capacity of the earth is always dependent on the efficiency of technology.
If we were to use the technology that we have today intelligently, i.e. combining ideas like hydroponics and permaculture, without the logistical inefficiencies, product inferiority and duplicity caused by competition, then we could easily support 10 billion happy human beings while slowly reversing the damage that we have done to the earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was disgusted when I read about this: (<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/mar/03/eu-approves-gm-food-potato" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/mar/03/eu-approves-gm-food-potato</a>) a while back, as one of the few useful and sensible things the EU ever did was to ban most GM produce and dodgy agricultural chemicals. For a while this problem just used to be away in America, where they had the EPA doing exactly what those scientists described the FSA as doing, but now the lobbyists are bringing their horrible abortion of science even closer to home, with a potato species and 3 types of corn that now may be legally grown in the EU.</p>
<p>Also, the problem isn&#8217;t just with Monsanto et al extorting money out of farmers, trying to legislate against the good parts of nature, patent what they didn&#8217;t create, and the risk of strange cancers or other ilnesses developing from the unstable gene structure in some of these strains, but also the risk of the actual pesticides, fungicides and weedkillers that they spray on these crops soaking into the food and straight-up poisoning people.<br />
Some of the sick corporations are even eager to spread crops that have genes to make them create their own pesticides, so that it doesn&#8217;t need to be sprayed, which not only puts the consumer&#8217;s health at risk, but creates the extreme risk of spreading into wild crops and destroying the natural ecosystems remaining in the world.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you found that article on ecological agriculture, because I hate constantly hearing the fallacious claim that the world is &#8216;overpopulated&#8217;, when we produce more food than is necessary to feed the world population while not having enough money for them to pay for it all, yet the carrying capacity of the earth is always dependent on the efficiency of technology.<br />
If we were to use the technology that we have today intelligently, i.e. combining ideas like hydroponics and permaculture, without the logistical inefficiencies, product inferiority and duplicity caused by competition, then we could easily support 10 billion happy human beings while slowly reversing the damage that we have done to the earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 10:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice one Jack.  Brian Wynne is a big figure on my uni course, is good to see him take a stand.

Neil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one Jack.  Brian Wynne is a big figure on my uni course, is good to see him take a stand.</p>
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